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Ali Afroz's avatar

Lovely post and I agree with most of your philosophical points, but I think this is very much a case of you defending the principal at the cost of weakening and diluting it so much that it’s not clear whether it actually matters in practice because after all, just because our uncertainty over whether say more economic growth in the developing world is good given effects on wild animals doesn’t meet your strict and demanding definition of cluelessness doesn’t mean that in practice, we are not still in a somewhat comparable position where while in theory, an agent might be able to resolve the question to their satisfaction in practice. It’s very hard to see what we should do about it. Basically, for a day-to-day actions, it may not matter that much whether we should be strictly clueless as opposed to merely having no idea what we should do in the more mundane sense because the both possibilities have somewhat similar outcomes. Even if for example, we can conclude that perhaps more investigation into for example, the consciousness of insects or the ecological impacts of more growth in the developing World would be helpful in resolving our question. Basically, the points at which you touch on principles that we could apply in our actual day-to-day decision making in the real world are precisely those points where I think your post is weakest so I’m not sure how much you manage to defend the idea that we should behave much more differently than if we were genuinely clueless, even if you mount a strong case against actual true cluelessness.

Anthony DiGiovanni's avatar

(For readers: I've replied to this on Richard's cross-post on the EA Forum: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/CyNmdcweSb7jKWeZR/hard-questions-aren-t-hopeless.)

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