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Peter Gerdes's avatar

While I agree, I think it is a response to a genuine and persistent bias in our thinking and even how we model action. And while you are correct it is technically false I worry that it's necessary given the complexity of the true reasons to avoid extreme action.

We tend to think and model people by idealizing away psychological constraints and asking about what possible choices they could make. Of course any model has to involve idealizing potentially deterministic physical reality into a set of choices and talking about what's physically possible for normal humans is a useful way to make this distinction. [1]

And while that's useful it tends to create a persistent bias towards people ignoring important psychological constraints. Be it those that prevent a doctor from undetectable killing one patient to save 10 or for someone to harness the backlash effect in a political assassination by engaging in a false flag operation (if assassination isn't useful bc of backlash than in theory a false flag assassination should be).

The problem is that it's not really psychologically possible (or at least likely) for someone to engage in those sort of acts without being hyped up in a way that makes the motives for the act relatively transparent and or makes discovery likely. Suicide bombers have all sorts of religious encouragement and even eco-terrorists require a support structure that assures them they are acting correctly.

But these tend not to be the kind of explanations people find compelling -- in part because it is really kinda hard not to imagine yourself as a free actor when contemplating future choices.

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1: It's a bit hard to define this in a principled fashion (it's not quite all possible commands the brain could give the body because it doesn't include things like a superhuman ability to ignore crippling pain) but it's a natural idealization to make because we have a relatively clear shared concept about what is involved in normal cases and it doesn't suffer from the kind of diagnolization worries that occur when you consider psychological constraints.

After all, one of the goals of this kind of modeling is to persuade people or guide action and the danger with trying to identify psychological constraints is that they may not be compatible with knowledge that the constraint is used in modeling their potential behavior (or more accurately constraints that only apply when someone doesn't know they are being used to model them aren't that useful).

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Neeraj Krishnan's avatar

> The obviously more reasonable grounds for being opposed to political violence is that (you reasonably expect that) political violence does not help the democratic cause.

Why can't we arrive here via:

Would we want unlawful killing without due process rights to become a universal law? I might be next, the people I think of as the "good guys" might be next, etc.

No matter the stakes.

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