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Thersitism's avatar

This is a good thought.

I think it's wrong and bad for leftists to oppose near term EA stuff like public health. But I don't think it's hypocritical for them to oppose longtermist EA stuff, despite the fact that political activity and longtermism both have a similar low-probably/high-reward dynamic.

Political activism involves a kind of intermediary step between the low-probability thing and the expected very good outcome. Activists have a small chance of persuading legislators with their protests or campaigns. But once a certain intermediate goal (having people in power who want to enact your policy) is achieved, the probability of getting the desired outcome is pretty high. But with longtermism, you donate to a bunch of nerds to study AI safety ➡️ ??? ➡️ avoid end of the world?

Damon Stanley's avatar

I do wonder if there's an extent to which leftist criticism here is coming from a more process-oriented (virtue, deontological) politics than a more outcome oriented one. If you think good politics looks like "building solidarity" in the abstract (unions, riots, rallies in particular) then both giving to charity (howsoever effective) and longtermist policy design don't look like *that*. (Not to defend this, but I do suspect a thought like this is motivating.)

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