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UnabashedWatershed's avatar

Without having read Arnold's essay, I can't say whether this is a compelling response. But on its own terms it feels weaker to me than your usual content.

The "Philanthropizing Democracy" section is an interesting policy idea, but isn't really responsive to the question of whether philanthropy can be undemocratic.

The "Strings" and "Fairness" sections convince me that "procedural unfairness" as you've described it is not the right concept to be using: we should rather want more good things and less bad things. I would have been interested in more depth on this point: the side of the argument you're on would seem to lean toward "it's worth it overall to let rich people have more influence," so I would have liked to see you directly accept or reject that. But perhaps that wasn't necessary in the context of Arnold's essay.

Lastly, this sentence seems fallacious (although maybe i'm misreading it?): "Given that strict equality of influence is a non-starter, I don’t really see much force to the complaint that it’s unfair that rich people ... have more influence than ordinary people." Replace "influence" with "wealth" and it seems to fall apart: one can sensibly complain about a concerning degree of wealth inequality without advocating for strict equality of wealth. You argue before this that fairness just isn't the right concept in this case, but as far as I can tell this sentence isn't advancing that argument -- it's making a new, invalid point.

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In some CEE countries, a small proportion of individual's tax burden - 1 to 2% - is discretionarily allocated to "socially beneficient causes" eg Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary. Not universal (you have to be a tax payer) but close. In Italy, just under 1% is allocated either to specific religious denominations or government welfare programmes based on people's declarations. So there's already a tiny precedent for something akin to "philanthropy vouchers" albeit for taxpayers only. How deep this could be extended realistically until we'd end up with even more desperately underfunded prisons and even more money for the Worthy Elderly Who Fought for Our Freedom (despite majority of them being now boomers born after the war) is hard to tell....

As to money and influence and "fairness". I feel this is not so much about unequal influence or sources of wealth but because I suspect people, even people who are ok with wealth inequalities, don't feel that greater wealth should AUTOMATICALLY lead to greater influence. It feels like cheating because people feel that influence should be allocated not so much equally, but on a different basis.

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