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I think one way to establish the difference with Pascal muggings is complexity: the muggings seem to rely on the ability of the mugger to pose _arbitrary_ large numbers of lives saved or whatever--that for _whatever_ probability you assign they can come back with an even larger number of good stuff to balance it out in expectation. But fitting more good lives then there are atoms in the known universe surely at some point starts to incur serious complexity penalties. Whereas, whatever you want to say about longtermism, it's basically "what humans have now, but a little bit moreso in quantity and considerably but not unphysically moreso in space and time extent", which to me is just qualitatively different.

I do think though it's incumbent on people in these situations to give plausible _ranges_ for the parameters and estimate the overall distribution from multiplying those.

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