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Tina Lee Forsee's avatar

I'm so glad Helen's book FINALLY came out! Tell her congratulations for me! And tell her good luck on rectifying your irrationally low credence in idealism. ;)

Let's see if I can do my part...

Totally agreed that most people should not read Berkeley as an introduction to idealism. You won't understand him until you've read Kant and Hume and Descartes and...basically you need to know about the history of philosophy to appreciate him, and even then he's an acquired taste. He can be rather in your face. Plus, people are so Cartesian in their thinking (even today) that they can't seem understand that he's not advocating for solipsism.

But...

Berkeley turned out to be right about Matter—science has cut up reality into teeny tiny pieces in its investigation of supposed "things in themselves" and has found a strange quantum world, not the fundamental building blocks materialists had been hoping for. Yet we're still hanging on to that very old materialistic reductive-mechanistic belief system.

Idealism isn't quite so antithetical to the modern view of science as people think. Max Planck, Werner Heisenberg, Niels Bohr, and Erwin Schrodinger are considered by some to be idealists.

https://www.essentiafoundation.org/can-a-physicist-embrace-idealism/reading/

As for "neural functioning clearly gives rise to our conscious experiences", I wouldn't say this is at all obvious or clear. Things are very much up in the air! :

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.00902/full#B174

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375004857_An_evidence-based_critical_review_of_the_mind-brain_identity_theory

Though less well known, similar debates are going on in biology concerning the origin and definition of life:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610721000365?via=ihub#bib47

The views here parallel those in consciousness studies with reductive eliminative physicalists such as Sean Carroll arguing that life doesn't exist!:

https://bigthink.com/life/life-does-not-exist-the-deceptively-tricky-task-of-defining-life/

Some things to think about. :)

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Gemma Mason's avatar

Huh. Yes, there’s definitely public interest in Berkeleyan idealism; I reviewed Ross Douthat’s recent book of apologetics a few months ago, and he hangs quite a few arguments on it, or tries to. Non-theistic idealism is an interesting move; congratulations to your spouse!

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