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Ghatanathoah's avatar

Why does Srinavasan use the expected value of being an anticapitalist revolutionary as an example of something that is hard to quantify? There have been anticapitalist revolutionaries around for more than a century now and they have enough of a track record to establish that their expected marginal value is massively negative. Becoming an anticapitalist revolutionary is a rational thing to do if you want to maximize death and suffering. If EA philosophy stops people from becoming anticapitalist revolutionaries then it's already made the world a better place, even if they don't go on to do any good at all.

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An interesting case is that Émile Torres is among the best-known and most aggressive critics of effective altruism, and I recall them (very admirably) helping to run a fundraiser for GiveDirectly -- in fact via the GWWC website.

I really think it is worth taking seriously that the main concern is with the peculiar and sometimes troubling social scene that has sprung up around the EA idea. (And the adjacent and much more troubling rationalist social scene.)

If people let their (IMO justified) worries about the people and social dynamics bleed over a bit into their judgment of the philosophy, well, maybe that's a good heuristic if you aren't a professional philosopher.

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