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Daniel Muñoz's avatar

Hope you don’t mind if a crazy person leaves a silly comment!

“Pride so deleterious to one’s chances of survival is ridiculous.”

Really? Even if you’re a utilitarian, there are obvious game theory reasons why you should want to have pride (even if this commits you to unreasonable actions in some eventualities). If it’s clear that you won’t put up with humiliation, a would-be exploiter can’t use your self-interest against you. This is, as a matter of empirical fact, the reason why people across cultures and income-levels are so difficult to exploit in an ultimatum game. If I know you’ll turn down an unfair split (even at great cost to yourself), I have an incentive to make a fairer offer.

Moreover, strategy aside, I find it hard to ridicule people who choose to die rather than disavow their most cherished values. This is not an obscure idea! Look at the treatment of martyrs in religious history. Or, to give an example from popular fiction (spoiler alert for Watchmen), think of how Rorschach chooses to be incinerated rather than step aside.

Maybe they’re making a subtle mistake, or maybe they got unlucky, having internalized a value that commits them to destructive actions in unfortunate circumstances. But “ridiculous”? I don’t see it.

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Thomas's avatar

Is "Never Let Me Go" your favourite romantic comedy?

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