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Peter Gerdes's avatar

I somewhat agree but I do think there is an important issue of presentation here as well. In particular, I'd argue that it is a very important feature of intellectual hygiene not to accept arguments phrases in terms of concepts whose coherence you don't necessarily accept.

And you can often rephrase those arguments without using those concepts to put pressure on those who don't accept them but it is pretty important you do that. Indeed, I'd argue that there are quite a few places in modern philosophy where our judgements are biased because a concept is subtly incoherent and we effectively end up demanding the person who rejects the argument provide what amounts to a proof of impossibility rather than demand the challenger phrase the argument without assuming the concept in question. My personal pet peeve in this regard is the surprise quiz -- if you want to suggest it is puzzling you are on the hook for convincing me you have a definition of surprise that raises problems (imo it's just ambiguity between different ways of using that word).

I mean with respect to how you phrased the preferability argument on substack -- if I'm not misremembering -- it was phrased directly in terms of this notion of preferability that the deontologist would be inclined to reject. I didn't find that very convincing. However, when I read the corresponding paper it seemed much more clearly framed in terms of a dilemma for the deontologist and I found that quite convincing.

It's possible that was just an ancillary issue I was hung up on but I remember being really impressed with how you framed it in the paper to specifically address concerns about the conceptual incoherence and I really want to encourage that.

So I think it is totally appropriate to ask the person challenging a theory to state the challenge in terms about the bullets the theory has to bite on its own terms (which can include: you would have to deny that there is a notion ...). Though I agree that as a matter of personal intellectual hygiene one should try to do that oneself if it isn't done for you.

Lance S. Bush's avatar

I question the notion that transparency is essential to question begging. Suppose I present the following argument:

People sometimes feel pain.

If illusionism is true, no one feels pain.

Therefore, illusionism is false

This argument does not seem to me to meet the transparency condition. However, once we disambiguate the terms used in this argument, it becomes apparent that the only way this argument could possibly work requires understanding the terms in a way that simply restates the conclusion. This is because “feels pain” is ambiguous. Illusionism is roughly the view that people mistakenly believe they have phenomenal states. That people mistakenly believe this is irrelevant to the objection, so the only thing that’s relevant is that it denies that there are phenomenal states. And we can distinguish between the only relevant senses of “feels pain”: one that involves pain phenomenal states and one that doesn’t. Illusionism denies all phenomenal states, not just pain phenomenal states, so pain itself is irrelevant. All that matters is that it denies there are phenomenal states. And the denial of the view that there are no phenomenal states, is, in this case, functionally equivalent to asserting that there are phenomenal states. Once we fully unpack this argument, then, we get something like:

There are phenomenal states.

If there are no phenomenal states, then there are no phenomenal states.

Therefore, there are phenomenal states. (Or, alternatively, it is false that there are no phenomenal states)

If this is used as an argument against the view that there are no phenomenal states, the first premise is clearly question begging. The issue with the transparency condition is that it conceals the vacuity of objections like the pain argument above behind a superficial veil of substance. When disambiguated, the relevant terms either trivially entail the conclusion in a superficial and trivial way that presupposes the conclusion or something that entails the conclusion, or at least one premise is going to be false and the conclusion doesn’t go through.

It is also question begging in the sense you specify in the article: You say that charging an argument as question-begging is “to deny that it raises any interesting problem.” I think this is true in the above case. The objection to illusionism on offer here does not raise any interesting objections to illusionism. It simply consists of asserting the contrary and vacuously repeating the implications of illusionism.

My point here is that even when an argument isn’t transparently question begging, it can be just as useless, vacuous, and presumptuous, and this is merely concealed behind terminological camouflage. There are no hidden implications or untapped considerations here. The argument’s entire force comes from rhetorically hoodwinking readers into thinking something substantive has been presented. I think this is true of many arguments: they are presumptuous and presume their conclusion in questionable ways, but conceal this. There’s no serious intellectual work to do in engaging with these objections. Given this, I question whether the transparency condition should really be maintained.

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