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Jake Zuehl's avatar

I'm so glad this paper has found a happy (and well-deserved) home! Congrats, Richard! I'd say it is pretty much mandatory reading for anyone interested in these issues.

I'm a robust deontologist (in your sense), and, unlike many deontologists, I'm perfectly comfortable with the theoretical vocabulary ("preferability," etc.) in which the paradox is formulated. So I need to think about how I want to respond in substantive terms. My initial, very tentative inclination is to reject (4), the claim that a successful prevention is vastly preferable to a failed prevention, where "vastly preferable" means more preferable than no gratuitous murders is to one such murder. I don't think that claim is as obvious as you suggest.

In general, I find it plausible that everyone (deontologists included) should be indifferent (or close to indifferent) between (A) an already attempted murder proving a success and (B) an accidental death. (If I could save one of two people from death, and I know that one of them was put in harm's way as an attempt at murder but I don't know which, I don't think I should be willing to pay much of a moral penalty to find out which is which so I can prevent the murder instead of the accident). So: yes, we should strongly prefer that the prevention succeed instead of fail, just as we should, in general, strongly prefer that five deaths be avoided. But I don't think the deontologist needs to be committed to thinking that the difference between a failed and a successful preventative killing is as big as (let alone bigger than) the difference between one gratuitous murder and zero, any more than they need be committed to thinking that five deaths are worse than one murder.

By the way, something like this may help interpret what Kieran Setiya had in mind with the remark in "Must Consequentialists Kill?" (cited in your fn. 41) about the "damage" already being done once the five murders have been attempted such that they can only be prevented by killing an additional one. Maybe he was thinking that the specifically 'moral' damage, the damage that makes a murder dispreferable to an accidental death, is already done once the murder is attempted. There is, of course, additional 'damage,' of a different sort, done when the five actually die!

It now occurs to me, though, that you could respond by adjusting the case to: one killing to prevent five other killings, which would succeed if attempted, from even being attempted (planned, conceived, desired...). The move I just made won't work against a case like that. (Apologies if you discuss this in the paper -- I haven't given the final version the careful attention it deserves). And it seems right that a successful prevention of that kind is vastly preferable (in your sense) to a failed prevention.

I have another possible reply in mind, turning on the difference between a preference for success conditional on the attempt, and a preference for a successful attempt. But it needs more thought, and this is already a very long comment!

Anyway, congrats again!

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Bentham's Bulldog's avatar

Awesome!

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