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Jack Hughes's avatar

Really enjoyed this post — especially the clarity around criteria of rightness vs decision procedures. I’m curious how you think about cases where decision procedures stop being merely advice and instead become embedded in institutions (laws, bureaucracies, algorithms) that shape future choice. Do you think the criteria/procedure distinction still applies cleanly once procedures become institutionalized?

Peter Gerdes's avatar

125% agree but I think a part of the blame here comes from philosophical education itself. These shouldn't be mistakes you make coming out of any ethics class at university but there are.

And I think there are some pressures which cause this. People who become philosophers tend to be very reluctant to call anything any philosopher ever said clearly wrong. And I understand why, but I feel that the way many philosophers teach ethics is a bit like trying to teach logic in a philosophy classroom where every time someone says "ok so contradiction (bot) is always false" you go "Well some philosophers like Graham Priest have argued there are true contradictions."

This bad way of talking about and understanding ethics is a clear attractor so if you don't clearly stamp it out students won't really understand. They can learn about all the buts and caveats later.

For instance, every time I've (as TA or student) sat in a class and that whole initial confusion where some students are like: but what is wrong in my culture might not be wrong in yours inevitably the instructor prevaricates a bit about how there have been some views about cultural relativism that ... before moving on. Same with plenty of arguments that are on their face bad the way you say. The instructor is often pretty reluctant to say in many contexts, that objection fails because it conflates what is good and what it is good to advocate.

But then again the reason I became a mathematican is probably exactly because I'd start the students off with semi-formal reasoning about what is good rather than the more humanities holistic approach.

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